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Old March 17th, 2007, 02:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I dont think ive staked a winner yet.

What is the best way to get a profit returned ?
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Old March 17th, 2007, 03:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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stake u!
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Old March 17th, 2007, 03:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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do u want the 4.40??
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Old March 17th, 2007, 03:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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haha. Thanks for the offer but I go deep in those frequently and they take about 4-5 hours to finish and i dont have the time for that right now. I'll run any 9 player tables if you want or just run the 4.40 another time.
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Old March 17th, 2007, 03:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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yea i will msg u tommorow to give u somethin ty though
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Series stakes versus 1-off events give a statistically successful horse more chances to win on your behalf.
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Old March 17th, 2007, 06:26 PM   #7 (permalink)

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staking =sfeasy find a horse with positive stats in a game
give them 20 buyins


tell them to run it to x amount

roll in the dough
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Old March 17th, 2007, 07:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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staking =sfeasy find a horse with positive stats in a game
give them 20 buyins


tell them to run it to x amount

roll in the dough
for sure this is the best way--- series stakes are very +ev if you have a good horse
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Old March 17th, 2007, 11:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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thanks guys
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Old March 18th, 2007, 10:50 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I dont think ive staked a winner yet.

What is the best way to get a profit returned ?

Takes awhile you'll eventually come across a winner to cover the previous given stakes and yeah offer a series more chance and of course a decent horse with stats to back!!
Stick with it.
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Old March 18th, 2007, 11:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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yeah, these guys are right. Stay away from the 1 tourney stakes, there is too much variance to have success in one tourney. Also there is more variance in the bigger tourneys so I would stay away from MTT's till you get your roll up a little or have seen success otu of someone.

Do yoru research, find someone who has a good 20%+ roi over the long haul in sng tourneys, and do a series of at least 5 of whatever you can afford. Staying away from turbo series also erases variance and fluctuation. So I would go with 1.20 tourneys like 5+, or a 5+ series of 5.50 sngs.

Also don't just look at the staker points, I suggest going to sharskscope.com and checking roi's of people. 20% plus is pretty solid. In series, you can also do modificiations where you say like "start with 5 tourney series, and then run it to 10 tourneys with the bankroll you build."

Good luck, stick with series, sng, and something you can afford to spot 5-10 buy ins for.
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Old March 18th, 2007, 11:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Jeez those player points are building up fast
Last time i was on you had 11!!!!!!!!!!! lol lol lol
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Old March 19th, 2007, 12:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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no idea
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Old March 19th, 2007, 09:33 AM   #14 (permalink)
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lol, all thanks to good stakers like you petrassi I've run a few for paspat that went well recently lol, that's started pushing it up.
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Old March 19th, 2007, 10:42 PM   #15 (permalink)
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btw, over a big sample size of sngs, 20% is VERY good, you'd be hard pressed to find many with that much--- id suggest looking for 10-15+%
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Old March 19th, 2007, 10:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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lol .. hows 39% ?
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Old March 19th, 2007, 11:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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if that's you, then stake yourself Or find someone with a higher roi
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Old March 20th, 2007, 05:53 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I have been trying to figure out a way to make stakes profitable.. i got lucky and got cradshark one night and he got 4th or 5th in a 15k guaranteed... but since then i have been looking to find more strong players in the NB ranks. My newest idea has been to run 6 people in a 3.3 when i will be playing also, so i can kinda rail it as it goes on.. Add a contest for last longer for the 15k guaranteed the next night. I have also added a contest for Final Tables.. which is a week of 15k guaranteed. Now if the horse manages to money the 15k guaranteed from the last longer, i will make a private tourney heeb for that player accordingly. I got lucky and the 1st stake i did like this a few nights ago worked out and my horse moneyed the 15k so i am now staking him in micro tourneys with a $50 dollar roll for 2 weeks or til +150. If this is successful larger stakes may occur. I am experimenting with this.. so any ideas are welcome. Just what i am trying now. GL stakers.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 06:49 PM   #19 (permalink)

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I tried a few series stakes with no luck, and then hit with a stake where I put three players into a 2.20 MTT, which one of the horses FT'd for a nice payback. I then staked that horse to a series of 5.50's and he again gave me a nice return.

I've also done a bunch of BAP's, which you would think would have positive EV due to the quality of the horses, but I have been completely unlucky with those so far.

It's just like sitting at a limit table. You can run bad for hours and make it all up in 15 minutes when you start connecting.

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Old March 20th, 2007, 08:13 PM   #20 (permalink)
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i think once you find a profitable horse.. put some bigger stakes up for them... keep them running... and hopefully turn a profit
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