March 22nd, 2007, 06:05 PM
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Best staking plan for $1000 roll
Right, I know I don't take part in much of the forum outside the Make a deal section but I was after some help.
I had a decent size win live recently and have also just got a job so don't have time to play online as much as I used to. This means I've got a chunk of cash with poker written all over it and no way of using all of it myself.
So the question I've got for you all is that if I've got about $1000 to potentially give out in stakes, whats the best way of doing it?
I don't want to make (but would obv like) huge returns on it, just better than if I stick it in the bank.
So thats it, any ideas or advice would be very welcome.
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March 22nd, 2007, 06:09 PM
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Never put all of your eggs in one basket.
I would suggest staking a few smaller series spread among a few people.
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March 22nd, 2007, 07:01 PM
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Maybe 10 people for 100$ MTT series.
One win by one person in a 5.50 for example, or even a 3.30 will probably make the 1000$ plus there will probably be others who cash and FT.
Maybe ask them all to run to 200-300$, or first big cash, and if they can all do that it should be a very nice return. Also, unless you pick 10 very crappy horses there should be no way that they ever go bust.
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March 22nd, 2007, 08:47 PM
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The best bet would be to invest 1-200$ in about 3-4 good BAP deals. But you just missed alot of good ones. Mine and phils usually have the most +ev as we combine sngs and mtt with more of an fav to sngs. mtt bap are always more risky but if you hit the right one they could pay off huge.
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March 22nd, 2007, 09:01 PM
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satellites, weeeeeeeeeeeeee
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March 22nd, 2007, 09:51 PM
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the best way would be to invest in a player to play a series of SNG's for you...it is less popular on neverbeg.com...but i think that if you were to look at most players...you are guaranteed an roi of about 10-20% from most of the players on the site if you give them a large enough sample size...a player with a +20% roi in 10$ sng's is better than the variance...a series of 9 sng's should be enough for a player to break thru the variance...and if you were to give out 10 series to 10 different players....the diversity of ur investment should almost guarantee a positive ROI...
Sharkscope is a good tool for checking into ROI's in sng's...you would basically have 90 sng's run for u...and then after the first round, you can analyze the HH's of your horses, and decide which ones you want to keep...obviously, you can not be completely results oriented, as your goal should be stable long term growth, and not quick wins resulting from hot 'running good' streaks...
you should make a spreadsheet to keep all your horses separate, and i would watch random sng's that you have time to watch to see how your horses are playing, make sure they are playing effectively. The $11 sng on stars is the easiest game to beat...people throw their stacks away, and obviously have no idea of proper sng strategy...
i would ask your horses to explain the bubble strategy to you, and tell you how they play the various stages of an sng, to be sure that they know what the **** they are doing....GL buddy,
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March 22nd, 2007, 10:24 PM
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so that might be good for me since i have like 500+ 20$ 9 man sngs with about a 25-30% roi
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March 22nd, 2007, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cradshark_
so that might be good for me since i have like 500+ 20$ 9 man sngs with about a 25-30% roi
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he prolly coulda posted something completely different and u woulda found a way to say it was could for-*cough cough* subliminal advertising *cough cough* lol but seriously GL man i hope this can work for ya
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March 22nd, 2007, 11:19 PM
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1000 dollar roll
if ur busy alot now
u prolyl want a manager
that or invest 50-200 into about 10 of the best baps
personally id recomend a manager as the more time sum1 has ur money without being watched the higher the odds are that they will inevitably roll u unfortunately
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March 23rd, 2007, 11:56 AM
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confused?!?!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by cradshark_
so that might be good for me since i have like 500+ 20$ 9 man sngs with about a 25-30% roi
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im new here...and very curious....does this constitute "begging"????? if it doesnt what would?????
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March 23rd, 2007, 06:36 PM
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im new here...and very curious....does this constitute "begging"????? if it doesnt what would?????
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They could technically call it that, if he weren't a mod of course, very surprised at you saying that, crad, very unmodlike.
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March 23rd, 2007, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cradshark_
so that might be good for me since i have like 500+ 20$ 9 man sngs with about a 25-30% roi
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that qoute was in direct refrence to treats statement above...i already stated what i thought was the best plan for the 1k was...
if it was interpeted as begging i am sorry.
it was more sarcastic than anything.
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March 23rd, 2007, 10:41 PM
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2-300 in a staking roll, 3-400 in BAP's, 300 in reserve or random stakes you feel like giving out
A staking manager might work (like me *ahem*)
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March 24th, 2007, 02:16 AM
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i know i know the best possible thing u can do is.....GIVE IT TO ME...jk imo u should invest 1/2 in poker and the other 1/2 go blow doing something u want 2
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March 24th, 2007, 06:08 AM
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Your best plan to be most profitable would be sng series amongst some of the more talented sng players here...I wouldnt go with a large series at first, but stake several people into some small sngs, to get a feel for their play and move up from there....Also, maybe find a few horses u like and stake them into an mtt series....Maybe letting them what they are comfy with, or whatever you may decide....This would be the best way to profit
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April 2nd, 2007, 09:06 PM
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depends - if you only have $1000 to stake and will not have any more I would look to find the best $22 - 180 mand SNG players on here. Then stake them for 3-4 at a time. The field is small, but the returns can add up quickly if you choose the right people. Invest for a Sharkscope account and make sure they have plenty of experience and results.
9 man SNGs are safe, but I would say on average a player on here is going to get you a 10% ROI and thus it will take a bit to make money since you are only getting 1/2 of that. Some players on here might want to say they have a 20% ROI, but look closely. They should have at least 1000 SNGs at that level to truly claim a solid 20% ROI. If you play 200 $27 tubos for example that is $5400 in fees. For a 20% ROI you would have to have a profit of $1080. Say this person then had a streth of 10 SNGs where they did not cash. Now at 210 SNGs and $5670 and only $810 profit that 20% ROI will drop to 14%. That is a 6% drop over 10 SNGS! So basically be skeptical of people's claims. I saw someone cliam a 700% ROI in $10 180s since they played a couple and won one of them - lol!
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