Strategy changes in ultra loose games.

[BrandonPL]

I have been trying to come up with some basic strategy changes that a solid player should make when they find themselves in a really loose game (online lets say the table is 40% to the flop and avg pots are like $70 in 1-2NL).

What types of changes do you make in these loose games?

Do you find yourself more or less profitable in them?

Do you find yourself paying off "bad players" too often when you have a moderate strength hand like TPTK?

For players who normally open any pair from any position, do you still do this or do you start limping smaller pairs from EP and just playing them for setmine value?

[Hartlin]

I was playing 1/2 at the casino and we were seeing flops 8-9 handed with a $15 raise preflop every other hand.

It was 6 hours before we didn't see a flop. It was unreal!!

I tend to play more hands with position and I try and see a lot of cheap flops with SCs, some connectors alone, all pairs, and some suited Aces as well because if you hit in these games, you'll get paid, guaranteed.

I find myself more profitable in these games but the variance is certainly higher.

I certainly do pay off bad players with TPTK in these games, sometimes even weaker hands but normally I'm making the right calls because they don't hit and have it every time.

I started limping pairs and calling most raises because to make a standard raise was to $10 and I'd get repopped to $30 and then I've lost set mining value so I was limping most pairs, even up to TT at one time (which I think was too weak IMO)

[caspernene]

i've been playing full ring on UB for the past week or so and the see flop % usually ranges from 33% to about 45%, with a lot of limping. i find myself playing much looser than i planned b/c i'm usually getting odds to call in late position with connecting cards and other speculative hands. i also find myself limping small pairs more b/c i'm not seeing many raises preflop. i'm finding if i pick the right seat, i can get away with a lot of steals too.

it's a little early to know if i'm more or less profitable in these - i started off strong, but had a few losing sessions recently.

i do find myself paying off "bad" players a little more, but more often i'm finding them paying me off in big ways. i just haven't had many big hands the past few nights.

i'm still trying to figure the best way to play these games, so any more suggestions would be very welcome

[caspernene]

on a side note on UB - i'm starting to really get annoyed with their software. it gets real slow if you play more than 4 tables (keep in mind i have PT and PAHUD running too). the other night i had to restart UB after it locked up when the waitlist window popped up for a new table.

also, they don't have much selection when you move above 50NL. about 6 100NL tables and 8 200NL tables is about as many as i've seen, and even fewer when it gets late (when i play).

also, all their cash games are jackpot games now (at least the ones that have any players on them). so that has to add to the rake (although i haven't calculated it out).

only reason i'm playing on UB is b/c i still have $600 bonus to clear

[shat4brains]

play like an 18/15 style and isolate limpers with suited connecters and gappers in position , play your position hard and punish them by making them play oop