Hand discussion

Hartlin · March 2nd, 2008, 08:59 AM

Seat 1: beajackass ($152.75 in chips)
Seat 2: T_Laq436 ($130.65 in chips)
Seat 3: Fussel2007 ($83 in chips)
Seat 4: hartlis1 ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 5: ihaterivers ($80.15 in chips)
Seat 6: nyoken ($274.75 in chips)
beajackass: posts small blind $0.50
T_Laq436: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hartlis1 [Qd Ad]
Fussel2007: calls $1
hartlis1: raises $3 to $4
ihaterivers: folds
nyoken: folds
beajackass: folds
T_Laq436: folds
Fussel2007: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [2d Td 6h]
Fussel2007: bets $3
hartlis1: raises $9 to $12

So, he limps and leads out. What kind of range can we give to this lead?

Obviously I think we need to raise here.

Fussel2007: calls $9
*** TURN *** [2d Td 6h] [6s]
Fussel2007: bets $26

What? He flats the flop and leads the turn?

What the hell does this mean? Any idea's?

Him having 22, 66, TT don't make sense to bet here as I'm in control of the hand .. AT? A weak ten?

Is this spewing?

hartlis1: raises $48 to $74

Thanks, appreciate the input.

fdel15 · March 2nd, 2008, 07:55 PM

wow he did play this hand pretty weird... did u have any reads on him at all?

Hartlin · March 2nd, 2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fdel15

wow he did play this hand pretty weird... did u have any reads on him at all?

4th hand at the table

BrandonPL · March 2nd, 2008, 08:59 PM

I take that exact line with sets often. Why? Because it confuses people an they likely play back at you.

If he is a good player, a set here is very possible. If he is a bad player I would say this is 75% of the time a flush draw and 25% of the time he has like 67s and hit trips on the turn.

Hartlin · March 2nd, 2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BrandonPL

I take that exact line with sets often. Why? Because it confuses people an they likely play back at you.

If he is a good player, a set here is very possible. If he is a bad player I would say this is 75% of the time a flush draw and 25% of the time he has like 67s and hit trips on the turn.

Long term is this a spew?

BrandonPL · March 2nd, 2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlin

Long term is this a spew?

I like your flop play.

On the turn, if I am planning on making a play at this pot again, I would likely just call behind and bluff bet or raise the river.

I don't make that play very often though.

Hartlin · March 2nd, 2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrandonPL

I like your flop play.

On the turn, if I am planning on making a play at this pot again, I would likely just call behind and bluff bet or raise the river.

I don't make that play very often though.

But would you say turn raise is a spew long term?

BrandonPL · March 2nd, 2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlin

But would you say turn raise is a spew long term?

Without more information on the player... yes

icecoldriva · March 4th, 2008, 04:07 AM

i think AQ is my biggest losing hand because of situations like this

. I think reraising the flop here is fine, he looks weak but after he calls this you gotta figure he isn't going anywhere and give it up. On the turn he leads out again and you figure he must be weak because he is doing awkward things but some peopl are just stupid and do awkward things because they don't know better. if he is somehow good, which it doesn't seem by his wierd bets all you are representing to a good player is that you hit that 6 or have an overpair and he's already said he has that beat or doesn't believe you when he calls the flop. Only hand you really are going to have a shot at getting rid of is a flush draw on the turn and he won't fold that if he sucks. I like the flop reraise but i'd toss it on the turn.