Opinions on this flop raise?

[Czar]

Title says it all.

PokerStars Game #16177161061: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/03/22 - 21:20:32 (ET)
Table 'Nikko III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Mat Rain Man ($18.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Str8Bluff21 ($4.05 in chips)
Seat 3: MoFoNtz ($4.50 in chips)
Seat 4: RetroK1D ($2.60 in chips)
Seat 5: CzarDariusz ($11.35 in chips)
Seat 6: MassFiend ($6.25 in chips)
MassFiend: posts small blind $0.05
Mat Rain Man: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CzarDariusz [8s 6s]
Str8Bluff21: calls $0.10
MoFoNtz: calls $0.10
RetroK1D: calls $0.10
CzarDariusz: calls $0.10
MassFiend: raises $0.30 to $0.40
Mat Rain Man: calls $0.30
Str8Bluff21: calls $0.30
MoFoNtz: calls $0.30
RetroK1D: calls $0.30
CzarDariusz: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [4c 7s 3s]
MassFiend: bets $0.70
Mat Rain Man: calls $0.70
Str8Bluff21: calls $0.70
MoFoNtz: calls $0.70
RetroK1D: folds
CzarDariusz: raises $3 to $3.70

[Pyromatic]

fold pre?

[Czar]

7:1 odds with suited connectors on the button? Nah I think I'll play.

[BrandonPL]

Originally Posted by Pyromatic

fold pre?

I would fold that hand pre in that situation < 0% of the time.

As for your flop raise, I'm still thinking about it.

I think I would like it more if it was a little larger which might knock out a larger flush draw (but not the nut draw obv) to get more of your outs live.

It's a really hard decision here because you could easily be raising with only 3 outs if you are against an over pair and a better flush draw.

For me it would depend on the players in the hand still. I might raise, I might just call.

[valueshove]

You have zero FE against this guy so I would just call.

[Czar]

Originally Posted by valueshove

You have zero FE against this guy so I would just call.

Why do I have zero FE?

[necromancer]

I prefer a call.

This is a big pot already. I don't think you are going to knock out another FD. Str8Bluff and Mofo are getting justabout the odds to call for the rest of their stacks if they have a FD. If matrainman RR you with an overpair or 2 pair or set then this is a disaster. The money you are really after is that guy that is betting. Winning a nice pot now would be great but if you hit your hand on the river you may just double your already considerable stack


...and it is just soooo cheap to call.


oh and you are closing the action so there is NO RISK OF BEING RE RAISED. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.