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Old March 25th, 2008, 05:55 AM   #1 (permalink)

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I've been getting run over climaxed by losing to two flopped sets when three players went all in before the action came to my AA on the button. Shortly thereafter this->

PokerStars Game #16231947368: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/03/25 - 00:44:35 (ET)
Table 'Cetacea II' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Gasman7777 ($58.40 in chips)
Seat 2: jalex1ff ($113.65 in chips)
Seat 3: alih99999 ($204.50 in chips)
Seat 4: MrMateria ($3.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Ghostridahii ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 6: skat tilt ($100.05 in chips)
Seat 7: lesmurphy7 ($129.90 in chips)
Seat 8: MadMax2010 ($177.45 in chips)
Seat 9: CALLMESICK ($20 in chips)
Gasman7777: posts small blind $0.50
jalex1ff: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jalex1ff [Qc Ac]
alih99999: folds
MrMateria: folds
Ghostridahii: raises $3 to $4
skat tilt: folds
lesmurphy7: folds
MadMax2010: folds
CALLMESICK: folds
Gasman7777: folds
jalex1ff: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Ad 9c 2s]
jalex1ff: checks
Ghostridahii: bets $7
jalex1ff: raises $12 to $19
Ghostridahii: calls $12
*** TURN *** [Ad 9c 2s] [9h]
jalex1ff: bets $20
Ghostridahii: raises $55.50 to $75.50 and is all-in
jalex1ff: folds
Ghostridahii collected $83.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $86.50 | Rake $3
Board [Ad 9c 2s 9h]
Seat 1: Gasman7777 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: jalex1ff (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: alih99999 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: MrMateria folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Ghostridahii collected ($83.50)
Seat 6: skat tilt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: lesmurphy7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: MadMax2010 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: CALLMESICK (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old March 25th, 2008, 02:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Don't raise the flop.
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Old March 27th, 2008, 05:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Any stats?

Bet the flop, check call his thin bet if he indeed does have Q9, K9, A9, 22; re-eval the river?
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Old March 27th, 2008, 05:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah stats would help a lot.

I probably play this hand a lot different (based on stats though). Against a typical player running like a 12-16VPIP I would like just check call the flop.

Then with that turn, I would probably check call again. If I lead out, he can raise a lot of hands some of which I beat and some I don't. If you check raise, you absolutely get action from any better hand and get a lot of worse hands to fold.

I don't really like to check raise that flop because if builds a big pot when you are OOP and you won't really know if he has AK, AJ, AT, 99, 22, QQ, or complete air and is just floating you.
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Old March 27th, 2008, 02:19 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Thanks for the replies. No stats.

Although he had not been active at all during the 30 or so hands that I was at the table. Didn't really see anything out of line from him during the rest of the session but I didn't know that at the time of this decision.
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bet flop. otherwise check/call

i highly doubt i'm folding at any point
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Old March 27th, 2008, 08:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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