April 7th, 2008, 07:00 AM
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$1/$2 NL HU cash pretty much readless
Only his 6th hand at the table, he sat full and I already owned him for a few small pots and then he does this....
PokerStars Game #xxxxxxxxxx: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/04/07 - 01:55:55 (ET)
Table 'Alpheratz' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: philivey6922 ($425.90 in chips)
Seat 2: cserafin35 ($175.50 in chips)
philivey6922: posts small blind $1
cserafin35: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to philivey6922 [8h 8s]
philivey6922: raises $4 to $6
cserafin35: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [Tc 8c 9h]
cserafin35: checks
philivey6922: bets $8
cserafin35: raises $161.50 to $169.50 and is all-in
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April 7th, 2008, 07:32 AM
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most of my HU experience is at 50NL, where this would be an insta call. based on no history with villain, i'm thinking he shows up with a draw here every time. of course, it could be a monster draw like KJ of clubs.
but it just makes absolutely no sense to do this with a made straight because wouldn't they want a call not a fold?
i call expecting to be ahead for now, with outs to fill if his draws hit.
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April 7th, 2008, 07:34 AM
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CALL! 
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April 7th, 2008, 12:28 PM
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Id think a call with 0 exp of HU cash games - i mean he has to be drawing youve already frustrated him - **** he may have 2 pair etc etc and be trying to shake you off..
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April 7th, 2008, 01:50 PM
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thoughts
If he flopped a straight then your going to have to make a boat ,dont see getting away from this as an option to many hands your ahead that shove here , big draw is likely, in my mind i would gamble here.
Last edited by D.E Million; April 7th, 2008 at 02:11 PM..
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April 7th, 2008, 02:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D.E Million
If he flopped a straight draw then your going to have to make a boat ,dont see getting away from this as an option to many hands your ahead that shove here , big draw is likely, in my mind i would gamble here.
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So if he flopped the draw we are the one that has to boat? WTF is that logic, lol?
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April 7th, 2008, 02:11 PM
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GEAR: DO NOT STAKE*
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lol
I meant if he flopped the stragiht..lol not the stragiht draw sorry...that doesnt make sense...lol My point was if he was that lucky to flop the first or second nuts, you still have outs to the boat.
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April 7th, 2008, 02:17 PM
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Yeah he had K T of diamonds and made the most ridic awful play I have ever seen. Turn was a K and river was a 6 and he lost obv.
BTW when I post these hands, 95% of the time I already know the "correct play" or what I do almost every time, I am just posting most of them to help improve people's HU cash knowledge.
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April 7th, 2008, 02:20 PM
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sure thing
Of course, I feel the same I just like sharing my thoughts on hands , I like to see what thoughts arise, maybe ill have a different out look on a hand I never thought i would have due to input of others.
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April 7th, 2008, 10:29 PM
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insta call, i seriously doubt he makes that push with the nuts
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April 8th, 2008, 07:07 PM
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when people make plays that don't make any sense at all, like shoving in this spot (who does this with any made hand?), I never give them credit and snap call.
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