$25NL What do you do in this spot?

Grinchyaaa · April 7th, 2008, 02:02 PM

PokerStars Game #16551268838: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/04/07 - 08:59:40 (ET)
Table 'Eurydike' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: SuperNova89 ($27.75 in chips)
Seat 3: PiS.Juliam ($21.55 in chips)
Seat 4: 8LION$NAKE8 ($10 in chips)
Seat 5: Poker_Muzz ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 6: Grinchya3 ($32.30 in chips)
SuperNova89: posts small blind $0.10
PiS.Juliam: posts big blind $0.25
8LION$NAKE8: posts small & big blinds $0.35
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Grinchya3 [Qh Qd]
8LION$NAKE8: raises $0.25 to $0.50
Poker_Muzz: raises $1.60 to $2.10
Grinchya3: calls $2.10
SuperNova89: folds
PiS.Juliam: folds
8LION$NAKE8: calls $1.60
*** FLOP *** [6h Jd 9h]
8LION$NAKE8: bets $0.25
Poker_Muzz: raises $5.15 to $5.40
Grinchya3: calls $5.40
8LION$NAKE8: folds
*** TURN *** [6h Jd 9h] [7d]
Poker_Muzz: bets $17.15 and is all-in
Grinchya3 said, "Dang"
Grinchya3 said, "QQ"
Grinchya3 said, "Show?"
Grinchya3: folds
Poker_Muzz collected $16.95 from pot
Poker_Muzz: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17.80 | Rake $0.85
Board [6h Jd 9h 7d]
Seat 2: SuperNova89 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: PiS.Juliam (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: 8LION$NAKE8 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Poker_Muzz collected ($16.95)
Seat 6: Grinchya3 (button) folded on the Turn

Lick496 · April 7th, 2008, 10:32 PM

id call, cause 25nl players are donktards. In a bigger game i might fold

seanzies · April 8th, 2008, 02:46 AM

It would depend on the caliber of player when deciding if I would call. I don't like calling off my stack with one pair, but if he sucks, he sucks. I would've reraised to about $10 preflop and probably taken it down right there.

Czar · April 8th, 2008, 03:45 AM

I also would have reraised preflop. Just calling gives the first player great odds to call with almost any hand. Also Poker_Muzz's raise could easily be just trying to steal the dead money from the post BB+SB.

As for the flop I would have moved in right then. Against 2 players on such a drawy board I really don't want them seeing another card. If poker_muzz has a higher pair or a set then w/e, it happens just move on.

sevencard2003 · April 8th, 2008, 05:01 AM

i think u were beat and made a good fold.

Sentin · April 11th, 2008, 11:36 AM

imo good fold at that point but, as said above, should've played it more aggressively to avoid being in this situation. Then again, at this level, the donk would've probably called a flop push regardless.

BeTheCards · April 15th, 2008, 02:30 PM

I think I'm putting in another raise preflop, raising /shoving the flop or, barring that, getting it in on the turn.

Maybe you're beat, but there's a decidedly > 33% chance that he's got a pair of jacks or worse.

As another poster said, my decisions would probably be different at higher stakes.

mburke05 · April 15th, 2008, 02:50 PM

raise pf, as played it looks like a good laydown to JJ/KKh/AAh.

HiroReborn · April 15th, 2008, 04:03 PM

re-raising preflop could've given you a lot more info possibly depending on how aggressive he is and what your read on him is. As it was played.. good fold. probably beat.

valueshove · April 19th, 2008, 01:20 AM

At 25nl I'm happy to 4bet and call a shove with qq v an unknown.

4betting pf for information is terrible whoever said that above. You're either raising for value or as a bluff, and in this case for value as I'd expect a random 25nler to happily stack off with TT+, AQ+.

As played I fold the flop. JJ hit, he doesn't raise TT and you're only ahead of aq/ak. Plus you get the added bonus of seeing his hand at sd cheaply.

nikbritain · April 21st, 2008, 11:43 AM

good fold.

Sniper5909 · April 21st, 2008, 02:39 PM

Ya, as said above, you really want to be aggressive with this hand pre flop and post flop to see where your at. Him taking control of the pot makes it harder for you to grasp what kind of hand he has. Since you are in position you can make a min reraise PF or the flop to get a better feel on the situation.

His hand could be anything from AJ to AA