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Old April 11th, 2008, 07:20 AM   #1 (permalink)

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did i make bad fold here? i only have 58 hands on this guy and he's 33/7



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Seat 1: luckypockets123 ($13.95)
Seat 2: HH_Frankfurt ($32.15)
Seat 3: jdowd111 ($10.10)
Seat 4: Diogenes22 ($12.85)
Seat 5: rabiddog99 ($44)
Seat 6: chechus88 ($22.30)
Seat 7: lasro ($15.65)
Seat 8: Snkrdodle ($9.75)
Seat 9: PPSN ($33.75)
jdowd111 posts the small blind of $0.10
Diogenes22 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rabiddog99 [Qc Qs]
rabiddog99 raises to $0.85
chechus88 folds
lasro folds
Snkrdodle calls $0.85
PPSN folds
luckypockets123 folds
HH_Frankfurt folds
jdowd111 folds
Diogenes22 raises to $3.50
rabiddog99 has 15 seconds left to act
rabiddog99 folds
Snkrdodle folds
Uncalled bet of $2.65 returned to Diogenes22
Diogenes22 mucks
Diogenes22 wins the pot ($2.65)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2.65 | Rake $0
Seat 1: luckypockets123 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: HH_Frankfurt (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: jdowd111 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Diogenes22 (big blind) collected ($2.65), mucked
Seat 5: rabiddog99 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: chechus88 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: lasro didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Snkrdodle folded before the Flop
Seat 9: PPSN didn't bet (folded)
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Old April 11th, 2008, 07:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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IMO, yes.

With his stack size, and those stats, I would just put him in pre and expect to be ahead of a lot of what he calls with. I'm never folding QQ in that situation preflop to a non-regular.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 11:04 AM   #3 (permalink)

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yup, same as brandon, in this situation, you're going to be ahead 9/10 times. At this level his range of reraising could be anywhere from mid pp to AQs AKo. Of course, he could have aa or kk, but for all the times he wont, you'll more than pay off the few times he will.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 11:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old April 11th, 2008, 12:33 PM   #5 (permalink)

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i have to admit. i missed checking his stats on my hud till after i folded. first thing that popped into my head was AA/KK and i totally skipped looking at his stats.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 04:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah its a bad fold the fact he has 12 dollars and yoru at the table wit h44 should be reason enough to call, yo uwill be ahead a mojority of the time anyways I think and theres no reason not to gamble here its 12 bucks your alredy up over 20 at the table, i wouldnt have even considered folding , if has 50 or more than maybe you jsut call and see flop but wiht his stac k you put him all in
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meh playing on instinct is fun too
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Old April 15th, 2008, 04:24 AM   #8 (permalink)

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i dont have his stats on this computer. but no one has taken into account Snkrdodle called my PF raise before Diogenes22 reraised my raise, and Snkrdodle still had the option to act after my decision to fold to Diogenes22. shouldnt the fact that their was another player in the pot that called my raise besides Diogenes22 factor into my decision to fold, or to put both short stacks all in? i know i had them both covered, but doesnt more people in a pot devalue pp's?
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