.05/.10 Nl

[viper31573]

am i beat on river,or should i have called?


*** Handhistory for game 43137372 ***
Blinds $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em - 17.04.2008 - 23:49
Salford
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players: 5
Seat 1: LetsDance444 ( $3.03 ) - in game
Seat 2: tehChipDonk ( $12.60 ) - in game
Seat 3: gercho1000 ( $15.51 ) - in game
Seat 5: viper2773 ( $23.65 ) - in game
Seat 6: runninggirl ( $3.57 ) - in game
LetsDance444 posts SB $0.05.
tehChipDonk posts BB $0.10.
**** dealing down cards ****
Dealt to viper2773 [ k§, 3ª ]
gercho1000 calls $0.10.
viper2773 calls $0.10.
runninggirl folds.
LetsDance444 calls $0.05.
tehChipDonk checks.
**** dealing flop **** [ 9©, j©, q© ]
LetsDance444 checks.
tehChipDonk checks.
gercho1000 checks.
viper2773 checks.
**** dealing turn **** [ t§ ]
LetsDance444 bets $0.40.
tehChipDonk calls $0.40.
gercho1000 folds.
viper2773 calls $0.40.
**** dealing river **** [ q§ ]
LetsDance444 checks.
tehChipDonk bets $12.10.
viper2773 folds.
LetsDance444 folds.
tehChipDonk mucks.
tehChipDonk wins $1.48 from main pot.

[goAthletics]

HH is hard to read but definitely fold K3o preflop if I'm reading this right... river fold is fine as you're chopping at best

[valueshove]

pf is awful. Rest is fine & rivers a instafold

[sizzlinbetta]

Lol

[philivey123422]

Are you serious? What value does K 3 os have in limping and what do you think you beat on the river? Sizzlinbetta summed it pretty well....

lol

[viper31573]

Originally Posted by philivey123422

Are you serious? What value does K 3 os have in limping and what do you think you beat on the river? Sizzlinbetta summed it pretty well....

lol

1st of all, i never asked about preflop.if i can see a flop for a dime,im seeing the flop with almost any 2 cards. i could flop 2 pair. every one checked after the flop,so i turned a straight for free. as for the river,i beat someone holding an 8 for the low end of the straight, and i beat trip queens. i lose to the flush and i lose to the full house.he checked the flop,the turn was a 40 cent bet,the river hits pairing the queen and hes all in. im thinking he had AQ,but it wasnt worth me calling a 12 dollar bet to find out. now rather than laughing,why not help me out here,which is the reason i posted. what do you think hes holding?the purpose of this forum isnt to laugh at people,i can get laughed at in SO. i post here to get better

[bleemo]

"if i can see a flop for a dime"

jees..

My friend, if you have these bad habits/ and calling patterns at the micros,

I wouldn't reccomend stepping up in limits anytime soon, next it will be

"if I can see a flop for $5", and so on

I think you were beat way before the river.

cheers..

[Liv4poker03]

he deff had boat but plz dont ever play K3 os preflop

[philivey123422]

You sir really need someone to straighten your poker game out because just by the way you just talked and justified that hand you might be one of the most god awful poker players in these forums.

[viper31573]

Originally Posted by philivey123422

You sir really need someone to straighten your poker game out because just by the way you just talked and justified that hand you might be one of the most god awful poker players in these forums.

lets put it in this terms. ive got 235 BB. if this were a tourney and you had 235 BB,would you not be seeing any cheap flop you could? your a fool if you answer no.

[viper31573]

Originally Posted by philivey123422

You sir really need someone to straighten your poker game out because just by the way you just talked and justified that hand you might be one of the most god awful poker players in these forums.

but none the less,this is the "strat" forum,so rather than just tell me im "god awful" explaining why how i played that hand was terrible would be more +ev

[philivey123422]

I told you how you played it terrible. Limping K 3 os in cash games has no value and on the river you beat absolutely nothing. You mentioned hands that you beat, but no one ever makes that play with those hands.

[valueshove]

reverse implied odds yo

[sizzlinbetta]

lol viper you make me laugh so much...i play k3f however i never do anything you do...
ok number one yes you have 245 times blinds almost but how did that happen ok that's another thing

you have actually 30x's blinds for limping purposes because the short stack is the most likely to pay you off further more no1 else has you covered so the fact you have this many chips is only for you spew and lose right back to this donks...further more the turn is gold for our hand atleast and you decide in position to check what card can possibly help you...what's the point of having all these chips if ur only check folding them off...i'm bored so i'm gonna laugh at some of your other posts...thanks for not listening and just being horrible.

[sizzlinbetta]

viper31573 508-$1 $3 -29%-$637 -PokerStars

sigh it won't show the fish jumping thru the bowl...
lol i wonder hwo that happens u obv know everything.

[Acid Hound]

I dont really get why everyone is flaming him, its really stupid, he is asking for help and I'd be a lot more pissed off if I was him. Yes he sucks but we all did once and he is clearly working on his game. Give him a break, its getting old...

That said, they r obv right. Limping K3 is just awful, never ever ever limp in that spot. Never do anything but fold. Yes you COULD flop two pair but you most likely wont and you will lose a lot when u hit top pair.

HH is hard to read but from what I can see, flop was checked, turn was bet $.40 and u flat? I dont like it b/c there are so many cards u dint want to see. Im not soo good at cash but I like a raise here. River I probably fold but I dont believe that they only shove hands that beat you at all... I have played my share of these donkaments and u will see trip queens here a fair amount

[rounder2413]

Seriously limping here is lighting a BB on fire, and possibly more...because I doubt your a strong enough player to get away from top pair easily when you flop it and are beat.

The rest of the hand is retardedly standard. Also, you realize that only like 150 of your 240 BB are effective here? Insta personal DNS

lol

[Acid Hound]

Originally Posted by rounder2413

Seriously limping here is lighting a BB on fire, and possibly more...because I doubt your a strong enough player to get away from top pair easily when you flop it and are beat.

The rest of the hand is retardedly standard. Also, you realize that only like 150 of your 240 BB are effective here? Insta personal DNS

lol

Again, is it necessary? were u a natural born baller? Did you play perfectly the first time you played? God this is pissing me off, I know the guys game is bad but he posted here for advice, hence strat. Everyone who flamed him here is good, but you were all also bad at one stage. I can appreciate not wanting to stake him ever, fine but are snide comments warranted?

Grow up imo...

[cds0699]

Originally Posted by viper31573

lets put it in this terms. ive got 235 BB. if this were a tourney and you had 235 BB,would you not be seeing any cheap flop you could? your a fool if you answer no.

Fact remains viper that this is not a tourney, its a cash game, cash and tourney play i so different from each other. I agree with everyone else, K3 is a obv insta fold pre flop

[rounder2413]

Originally Posted by Acid Hound

Again, is it necessary? were u a natural born baller? Did you play perfectly the first time you played? God this is pissing me off, I know the guys game is bad but he posted here for advice, hence strat. Everyone who flamed him here is good, but you were all also bad at one stage. I can appreciate not wanting to stake him ever, fine but are snide comments warranted?

Grow up imo...

No, it's really not that. It's good that he's posting strat, but it's bad that he will not even try to think that he's played the hand wrong. He's calling us fools for saying limping K3o in EP is a bad play. If he said "Oh, maybe I should re-think limping K3o next time." it would be 0 problem. I'm not flaming his playing abilities, but rather it seems he doesn't want to really improve.