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Old February 11th, 2008, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)

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PokerStars Game #15216248490: Tournament #77003870, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/02/11 - 15:12:31 (ET)
Table '77003870 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: charder30 (8988 in chips)
Seat 2: JOEYTHEB (11425 in chips)
Seat 3: Stammdogg (8492 in chips)
Seat 4: TheFitGuy (17005 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: seanwal23 (4500 in chips)
Seat 6: jonrubs (8350 in chips)
Seat 7: Mia_121 (5545 in chips)
Seat 8: Anbessa9 (4780 in chips)
Seat 9: Kjellerup (10855 in chips)
Mia_121: posts small blind 75
Anbessa9: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jonrubs [Ks Kd]
Kjellerup: folds
charder30: raises 250 to 400
JOEYTHEB: folds
Stammdogg: folds
TheFitGuy: folds
seanwal23: folds
jonrubs: calls 400
Mia_121: folds
Anbessa9: folds
*** FLOP *** [9c 6s Th]
charder30: bets 675
jonrubs: raises 1575 to 2250
charder30: folds
jonrubs collected 2375 from pot
jonrubs: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2375 | Rake 0
Board [9c 6s Th]
Seat 1: charder30 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: JOEYTHEB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Stammdogg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: TheFitGuy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: seanwal23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jonrubs (button) collected (2375)
Seat 7: Mia_121 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Anbessa9 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Kjellerup folded before Flop (didn't bet)

do you like the flat then r/r flop?
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Old February 11th, 2008, 08:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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nooooo. You have too big of a stack to flat pf IMO. OBV raise flop once you flat though.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 08:33 PM   #3 (permalink)

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r/r pf gives away my hand tho hes EP raiser so in order for me to r/r i have to have such a tight range
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Old February 11th, 2008, 09:04 PM   #4 (permalink)

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i dont hate it...but i dont like it either
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Old February 11th, 2008, 09:13 PM   #5 (permalink)

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what would you do? im just looking for honest opinions you could ask belowabove for me
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I personally if im gonna slow play it, i smooth call the flop then raise his turn bet ...pull more money in the pot......only prob is if that str8 draw hits or a A hits then your in big trouble......I personally RR pre
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Old February 11th, 2008, 10:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't care for the smoothcall pre because you're not guaranteed a HU pot. Either blind is getting decent odds to come in with a wide range.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 10:55 PM   #8 (permalink)

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I flat with big hands pre more than most but I hate doing it when someone makes a small pf < 3x raise because so many people behind you are getting a great price, especially the blinds.
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i dont mind it, but your flop raise is too big and looks too strong. I would have made it like 1750.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 12:50 AM   #10 (permalink)

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It's chardonk, it doesn't matter what you 'rep' b/c doesn't have to be much when you 3-bet his raise.

Flatting here with 55 BB's is bad vs. a good player.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 12:57 AM   #11 (permalink)

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he knows he has an aggressive image especially since you know him from nb....your reraising range is pretty big preflop (or should be probably) ....i dont like the flat either

i usually dont try to outplay players that i know are better then me...i play pretty standard bc i find sometmies they outhink themselves
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but hes raising from ep so if i r/r doesnt it just like give away i have a big pp or AK
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Sounds like you don't RR enough PF. You need to do it here. Too deep not to.
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way too deepstacked for this
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The only reason you should be flatting preflop is to play for a double up.

obv you don't need double here...

Also, are you aware of how light chardonk 3-bets?
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ive never played with him or watched him play tbh only time ive seen him play was PCA where he was tight for awhile
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Old February 12th, 2008, 11:46 PM   #17 (permalink)

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You asked the question, we're telling you

FLATTING HERE PREFLOP IS BAD
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You need to R/R more pre-flop, your losing value by flatting here. Even if you've never played with the guy flatting him is suicide, especially someone of chardonk's calibre.
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when did i ever put down someones response i actually asked 2 questions and i liked all the responses
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