24 left in 12 180 man...99

[mutigers5591]

PokerStars Game #15244545943: Tournament #77223102, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2008/02/12 - 19:08:25 (ET)
Table '77223102 3' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: chip_stakker (8230 in chips)
Seat 3: thaikobe (20687 in chips)
Seat 4: Petyas (4399 in chips)
Seat 5: mgurev (18130 in chips)
Seat 6: CCF20 (10643 in chips)
Seat 8: mutigers5591 (10872 in chips)
Seat 9: theZappa (16606 in chips)
chip_stakker: posts the ante 100
thaikobe: posts the ante 100
Petyas: posts the ante 100
mgurev: posts the ante 100
CCF20: posts the ante 100
mutigers5591: posts the ante 100
theZappa: posts the ante 100
CCF20: posts small blind 500
mutigers5591: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mutigers5591 [9s 9h]
theZappa: folds
chip_stakker: folds
thaikobe: folds
Petyas: raises 3299 to 4299 and is all-in
mgurev: calls 4299
CCF20: folds
mutigers5591:

i guess this is kind of like the 77 question except they are pushing in late pos and its a short stack....is this an easy push or what

[NotSoFarOff]

This is a pretty standard shove imo. You are wayyyyy ahead of both of their ranges here

[Vedder1980]

Ok 99 is pretty much the bottom pair im getting it in with here. Going into 2 seperate pots could be good but could also be a terrible thing against 2 live overs/overpair from big stack. His call is a shame but still i think 99 is a must shove hand here due to the size of stack you will have. This is a huge factor - a lot more than 45's - as obv the payouts only really get interesting for high volume players when your hitting the top 3. With your skill edge on the feild winning this pot will be huge for you so get it in there.

Stu.

[bestbuy02]

I was going to say "I wouldn't want to be in a multi way pot with 99, you have no FE to push the caller off his hand. I like a fold here this close to the bubble." But i did not notice it was a turbo and the blinds were so high. Like Vedder said, 99 would be a borderline shove here only for the fact that it is a turbo. I can go either way on this one. Shove or fold is OK and calling is bad

[chimp__greg]

shove

[Vedder1980]

Originally Posted by chimp__greg

shove

If uberdonk says so it must be true

Stu.

[aguttorm]

moved this thread - SNGs strat is only up to 45 mans

Also, I like a fold here. mgurev can flat you with anything from 77+, AT+. I think the way to figure out whether a shove is correct is to figure out what mgurev would isolate with.

I think he flat with AA, KK, maybe QQ. I think he would isolate (if he knows what he's doing) with TT,JJ, AK, AQ, maybe AJ...I can see him flatting with 66,77,88,99,AJ,AT.

So I think his flat means he's holding either AA,KK, or a hand like 66-99, AJ,AT, so I like a shove here.

[cardsfan04]

I think I'm going for a big stack here. If you're crushed, that sucks.

[chimp__greg]

88 might be a fold

[mutigers5591]

well i folded but i think pushing is a better play IMO..I totally forgot what they had tho