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Old February 13th, 2008, 08:26 AM   #1 (permalink)

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do you fold your kings here? rest of hand in white

PokerStars Game #15253168445: Tournament #77205780, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2008/02/13 - 03:13:24 (ET)
Table '77205780 48' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: jbirkby (21810 in chips)
Seat 2: PICKY424 (14433 in chips)
Seat 3: NighTLesS (9270 in chips)
Seat 4: Crustyoldman (23864 in chips)
Seat 5: Milkinarush (855 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: oclan (8033 in chips)
Seat 7: DaTruth7 (5364 in chips)
Seat 8: viper31573 (6203 in chips)
Seat 9: DEE'S PANTRY (3155 in chips)
jbirkby: posts the ante 50
PICKY424: posts the ante 50
NighTLesS: posts the ante 50
Crustyoldman: posts the ante 50
Milkinarush: posts the ante 50
oclan: posts the ante 50
DaTruth7: posts the ante 50
viper31573: posts the ante 50
DEE'S PANTRY: posts the ante 50
NighTLesS: posts small blind 300
Crustyoldman: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to viper31573 [Kd Kh]
Milkinarush: folds
oclan: calls 600
DaTruth7: folds
viper31573: raises 1800 to 2400
DEE'S PANTRY: folds
jbirkby: folds
PICKY424: folds
NighTLesS: folds
Crustyoldman: calls 1800
oclan: calls 1800
*** FLOP *** [2s 9s Ks]
Crustyoldman: bets 1800
oclan: raises 1800 to 3600
viper31573: raises 153 to 3753 and is all-in
Crustyoldman: calls 1953
oclan: calls 153
*** TURN *** [2s 9s Ks] [Jc]
Crustyoldman: checks
oclan: bets 1830 and is all-in
Crustyoldman: calls 1830
*** RIVER *** [2s 9s Ks Jc] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Crustyoldman: shows [5s 5d] (a pair of Fives)
oclan: shows [Qs Js] (a flush, King high)
oclan collected 3660 from side pot
viper31573: shows [Kd Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
oclan collected 19209 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 22869 Main pot 19209. Side pot 3660. | Rake 0
Board [2s 9s Ks Jc 3c]
Seat 1: jbirkby folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: PICKY424 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: NighTLesS (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Crustyoldman (big blind) showed [5s 5d] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 5: Milkinarush folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: oclan showed [Qs Js] and won (22869) with a flush, King high
Seat 7: DaTruth7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: viper31573 showed [Kd Kh] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 9: DEE'S PANTRY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old February 13th, 2008, 09:46 AM   #2 (permalink)

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ever

and just shove pre, you have ~10 BB's
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Old February 13th, 2008, 12:09 PM   #3 (permalink)

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not exactly sure what acid is trying to say there^ so ill throw out an idea
you should have gone all in pre flop with less than 10 bbs- its the only corect play, but you definitely cant fold here since you got yourself in this gross spot, hopefully you filled
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Old February 13th, 2008, 12:12 PM   #4 (permalink)

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bad situation....

IF I tried to get cute with just a pre-flop raise here(which unfortunately I still do sometimes) there is no way I could fold it either.....

All in preflop with KK in that situation, next time....
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Old February 13th, 2008, 02:36 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Not a chance that you fold that flop. Even if you're behind, you can still fill up but just because there are 3 spades out there, doesn't mean someone has a flush already.
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Shove preflop or don't raise that much.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 10:11 PM   #7 (permalink)

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what they said

lolz @ folding here
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Don't ever open for 4x PF.

Shove or make it ~2.5x.

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Old February 14th, 2008, 07:37 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Flop: 3 parts: 1. Fist pump. 2. Allin. 3. Another fist pump.
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Don't ever open for 4x PF.

Shove or make it ~2.5x.

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i like 3x's it so you have about a pot size bet left to push any flop dark more than the open shove but either way...

viper u fold her i come to ur house and punch you in the dick that's a promise
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Old February 14th, 2008, 12:56 PM   #11 (permalink)

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theres 1950 in the pot before any action and he has 6k in his stack so...............

~try to make your pre flop, all-in look as weak as possible~
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