AJ in BB

[guitey]

i tend to flat call here most of the time, and try to hit a monster flop.

is there a case for a big re raise?

Stage #1089225417 Tourney ID 1962839 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $300 - 2008-02-13 10:25:21 (ET)
Table: 10 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 1 - WHISTLER42 ($23040 in chips)
Seat 2 - MOMMA MORTIN1 ($14030 in chips)
Seat 3 - IV_NURSE ($370 in chips)
Seat 4 - SULERIAN ($5785 in chips)
Seat 5 - KINGMAG ($9080 in chips)
Seat 6 - GRZAK ($12280 in chips)
Seat 7 - GERBENSTEIN ($13025 in chips)
Seat 8 - BRICK59 ($12880 in chips)
Seat 9 - A_CHIPHUNTER ($2745 in chips)
WHISTLER42 - Ante $25
MOMMA MORTIN1 - Ante $25
IV_NURSE - Ante $25
SULERIAN - Ante $25
KINGMAG - Ante $25
GRZAK - Ante $25
GERBENSTEIN - Ante $25
BRICK59 - Ante $25
A_CHIPHUNTER - Ante $25
A_CHIPHUNTER - Posts small blind $150
WHISTLER42 - Posts big blind $300
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to WHISTLER42 [Jc Ah]
MOMMA MORTIN1 - Folds
IV_NURSE - Folds
SULERIAN - Folds
KINGMAG - Raises $900 to $900
GRZAK - Calls $900
GERBENSTEIN - Folds
BRICK59 - Calls $900
A_CHIPHUNTER - Folds
WHISTLER42 - ???

[Roundelay]

I fold it.

[khal623]

I would fold it too - AJo KQ, JQ are hard to play post flop.

[Hartlin]

What?!?!?!

You are never folding here, ever, ever, EVER.

This is one of the easiest 3bets I ever could make. Make it 2500ish to go.

Tough spot if he shoves, but you HAVEEEEEEEE to reraise here.

[cardsfan04]

Folding is terrible, WAY too much money out there to fold AJ from the BB.

I don't always RR this. It depends on the player. I am never RRing a nit here. But, if he is moderately tight to loose w/ his raises, 3 betting is the way to go.

[fdel15]

classic squeeze situation... especially with ur stack... reraise it to 4500-5000 and be prepaired to call any push

[Hartlin]

Originally Posted by fdel15

classic squeeze situation... especially with ur stack... reraise it to 4500-5000 and be prepaired to call any push

No.

Make it 2700ish, why over-raise? my god

This isn't a squeeze either .. a squeeze is when you re-raise a raise and call... sigh

[fdel15]

Originally Posted by Hartlin

No.

Make it 2700ish, why over-raise? my god

This isn't a squeeze either .. a squeeze is when you re-raise a raise and call... sigh

2700 is way too small of a reraise for this situation... you would be making it 1800 more in a pot of 5400... and thus you are laying really good odds... by making it 4-5k you are puttin pressure on them to decide if they want to play for all their chips as you will be getting good enough odds to call their all in

[Roundelay]

AJ is so deceptively weak. What are you ahead of that they are raising with, and getting two callers?

umm.. nothing?

Toss it, wait for a better spot. Yes, the Dan Harrington crowd will say make it 2500-2800, and wank all over the squeeze play, but I find this such an easy fold, it makes me laugh.

[NateTrib]

Originally Posted by fdel15

classic squeeze situation... especially with ur stack... reraise it to 4500-5000 and be prepaired to call any push

I like this play

Originally Posted by fdel15

2700 is way too small of a reraise for this situation... you would be making it 1800 more in a pot of 5400... and thus you are laying really good odds... by making it 4-5k you are puttin pressure on them to decide if they want to play for all their chips as you will be getting good enough odds to call their all in

agreed

[chimp__greg]

Like 3500-4200.

Or call.

don't fold.

[fdel15]

Originally Posted by chimp__greg

Like 3500-4200.

Or call.

don't fold.

do u fold or a call a push after makin it 3500?

[JimTheFish]

with a chip stack in 5 digits, i 3xpop there to 2700 automatic
someone repops or pushes and i would have to go off table reads. but imo a reraise here is called for.

[cardsfan04]

I'm pretty sure the 2nd call doesn't negate this being a squeeze, but that's semantics.

I too think 2400 is too small. I like ~3000, maybe a little more. 4000 is getting a little high for my liking. I probably make it 3300.