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Old February 20th, 2008, 04:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First hand of a $60 9 man

BongBob is a 20 tabler therefore I know he is ONLY playing HUGE hands 1st 3 levels so position and the fact that he raised from the cut off is really irrelevant.

I flat call pre with QQ from the button because IMO his range is 1010+ AQ+

On the river I call out his hand but realize that AK or AQ have got to be possibilities too and call but I was 90% sure he had it

Anyone play it differently?

PokerStars Game #15420018751: Tournament #78058150, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/02/20 - 11:11:29 (ET)
Table '78058150 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: eppy12588 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: holigan3 (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: BB John (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: paulus33 (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Flisen08 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: rander84 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Dave Carlson (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: zagros1968 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: BongBob (1500 in chips)
holigan3: posts small blind 10
BB John: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to eppy12588 [Qc Qh]
paulus33: folds
Flisen08: folds
rander84: folds
Dave Carlson: folds
zagros1968 has timed out
zagros1968: folds
zagros1968 is sitting out
zagros1968 has returned
BongBob: raises 60 to 80
eppy12588: calls 80
holigan3: folds
BB John: folds
*** FLOP *** [As Qs 7s]
BongBob: checks
eppy12588: bets 80
BongBob: calls 80
*** TURN *** [As Qs 7s] [Kd]
BongBob: bets 200
eppy12588: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [As Qs 7s Kd] [6d]
BongBob: bets 500
eppy12588 said, "pretty sick if ya got KK"
eppy12588: calls 500
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BongBob: shows [Ks Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
eppy12588: mucks hand
BongBob collected 1750 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1750 | Rake 0
Board [As Qs 7s Kd 6d]
Seat 1: eppy12588 (button) mucked [Qc Qh]
Seat 2: holigan3 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: BB John (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: paulus33 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Flisen08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: rander84 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Dave Carlson folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: zagros1968 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: BongBob showed [Ks Kh] and won (1750) with three of a kind, Kings
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Old February 20th, 2008, 05:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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80 isn't enough on that flop...also afterwards don't be that nitty...i mean he can have you beat but i think you beat a lot of hands taht will pay you off...
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Old February 20th, 2008, 06:02 PM   #3 (permalink)

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raise flop for sure ....3 spades i dont get the flat call

ill always pay off on the river even vs a reg though
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Old February 20th, 2008, 06:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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raise flop for sure ....3 spades i dont get the flat call

ill always pay off on the river even vs a reg though
He checked and I bet flop...not enough tho prob should went between 120 and 160 but hes prob calling anyways with the nut flush draw
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my bad didnt read it very well apparently
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Old February 20th, 2008, 06:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Im just trying to figure out if there is anything I beat that bets 500 on the river.

If we put his range at A10+ 77+, which is wide IMO for BongBob in the first level, how do all the hands play

A10 AJ AQ AK all bet that flop so IMO we can rule out all 4 of those hands (remember this guy is a bot hes going to be contuniation betting 80% of the time whether he hits or not)

77 also bets flop considering there are 3 spades out there so we can rule that out

88 99 1010 JJ may check call that flop w/ a spade but are any of these hands really going to bet out 200 on the turn? defiinitly not so we can rule them out

QQ I have so he cant obv

Which only leaves KK or AA which both beat me and its pretty easy to figure out he has KK as AA would bet that 3 spade flop but KK would check call that flop especially with the K of spade and then bet out when the K hits for his set.

I dont really think Im over thinking it I really dont think it was possible that I beat anything and I prob shoulda folded.
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pot bet on the flop

otherwise coolered.
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Old February 20th, 2008, 09:46 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Im just trying to figure out if there is anything I beat that bets 500 on the river.

If we put his range at A10+ 77+, which is wide IMO for BongBob in the first level, how do all the hands play

A10 AJ AQ AK all bet that flop so IMO we can rule out all 4 of those hands (remember this guy is a bot hes going to be contuniation betting 80% of the time whether he hits or not)

77 also bets flop considering there are 3 spades out there so we can rule that out

88 99 1010 JJ may check call that flop w/ a spade but are any of these hands really going to bet out 200 on the turn? defiinitly not so we can rule them out

QQ I have so he cant obv

Which only leaves KK or AA which both beat me and its pretty easy to figure out he has KK as AA would bet that 3 spade flop but KK would check call that flop especially with the K of spade and then bet out when the K hits for his set.

I dont really think Im over thinking it I really dont think it was possible that I beat anything and I prob shoulda folded.
some good points here that have me thinking fwiw
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Old February 21st, 2008, 03:48 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Yeah your arguement is actually really good I think your right...
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