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Old February 21st, 2008, 07:41 AM   #1 (permalink)

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I'm curious about your thoughts on what odds you need to be getting to call a shove by someone when your in the BB?

Another good 45man turbo player told me if you are getting better than 2:1 and your stack wont be crippled if you lose, then you should call with any two. Do you agree with this?




If you don't mind I'll give you a couple scenarios and just let me know if you call or fold.


Table '78140444 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: camptheblunt (30455 in chips)
Seat 5: jefrey27 (4000 in chips)
Seat 7: Yugo_Hustlah (12995 in chips)
Seat 9: n7a7t7e (20,000 in chips)
camptheblunt: posts the ante 75
jefrey27: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts the ante 75
n7a7t7e: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts small blind 600
n7a7t7e: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to n7a7t7e [2h 6h]
camptheblunt: folds
jefrey27: raises to 4,000 and is all-in
Yugo_Hustlah: folds
n7a7t7e: ???



Table '78140444 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: camptheblunt (30455 in chips)
Seat 5: jefrey27 (4000 in chips)
Seat 7: Yugo_Hustlah (12995 in chips)
Seat 9: n7a7t7e (10,000 in chips)
camptheblunt: posts the ante 75
jefrey27: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts the ante 75
n7a7t7e: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts small blind 600
n7a7t7e: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to n7a7t7e [2h 6h]
camptheblunt: folds
jefrey27: raises to 4,000 and is all-in
Yugo_Hustlah: folds
n7a7t7e: ???



Table '78140444 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: camptheblunt (30455 in chips)
Seat 5: jefrey27 (4000 in chips)
Seat 7: Yugo_Hustlah (12995 in chips)
Seat 9: n7a7t7e (10,000 in chips)
camptheblunt: posts the ante 75
jefrey27: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts the ante 75
n7a7t7e: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts small blind 600
n7a7t7e: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to n7a7t7e [Jc Ts]
camptheblunt: folds
jefrey27: raises to 4,000 and is all-in
Yugo_Hustlah: folds
n7a7t7e: ???



Table '78140444 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: camptheblunt (30455 in chips)
Seat 5: jefrey27 (5000 in chips)
Seat 7: Yugo_Hustlah (12995 in chips)
Seat 9: n7a7t7e (20,000 in chips)
camptheblunt: posts the ante 75
jefrey27: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts the ante 75
n7a7t7e: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts small blind 600
n7a7t7e: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to n7a7t7e [Jc Ts]
camptheblunt: folds
jefrey27: raises to 5,000 and is all-in
Yugo_Hustlah: folds
n7a7t7e: ???




thanks for taking the time to go through this. much apreciated
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Old February 21st, 2008, 10:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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im obv not mutigers but I have really good 45 man stats....heres my input for what its worth...

#1 call
#2 fold
#3 call
#4 call

3 and 4 are pretty hard decisions but I think 1 and 2 are pretty clear
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Old February 21st, 2008, 03:52 PM   #3 (permalink)

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^^ I agree. Just run it through sngegt. free and very good
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Old February 21st, 2008, 06:29 PM   #4 (permalink)

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alright thanks for the input guys, i might check out sngegt
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 12:54 AM   #5 (permalink)

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personaly ( although i do not have the greatest amount of 9 man experiance)

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I'm curious about your thoughts on what odds you need to be getting to call a shove by someone when your in the BB?

Another good 45man turbo player told me if you are getting better than 2:1 and your stack wont be crippled if you lose, then you should call with any two. Do you agree with this?




If you don't mind I'll give you a couple scenarios and just let me know if you call or fold.


Table '78140444 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: camptheblunt (30455 in chips)
Seat 5: jefrey27 (4000 in chips)
Seat 7: Yugo_Hustlah (12995 in chips)
Seat 9: n7a7t7e (20,000 in chips)
camptheblunt: posts the ante 75
jefrey27: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts the ante 75
n7a7t7e: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts small blind 600
n7a7t7e: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to n7a7t7e [2h 6h]
camptheblunt: folds
jefrey27: raises to 4,000 and is all-in
Yugo_Hustlah: folds
n7a7t7e: ???



Table '78140444 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: camptheblunt (30455 in chips)
Seat 5: jefrey27 (4000 in chips)
Seat 7: Yugo_Hustlah (12995 in chips)
Seat 9: n7a7t7e (10,000 in chips)
camptheblunt: posts the ante 75
jefrey27: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts the ante 75
n7a7t7e: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts small blind 600
n7a7t7e: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to n7a7t7e [2h 6h]
camptheblunt: folds
jefrey27: raises to 4,000 and is all-in
Yugo_Hustlah: folds
n7a7t7e: ???



Table '78140444 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: camptheblunt (30455 in chips)
Seat 5: jefrey27 (4000 in chips)
Seat 7: Yugo_Hustlah (12995 in chips)
Seat 9: n7a7t7e (10,000 in chips)
camptheblunt: posts the ante 75
jefrey27: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts the ante 75
n7a7t7e: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts small blind 600
n7a7t7e: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to n7a7t7e [Jc Ts]
camptheblunt: folds
jefrey27: raises to 4,000 and is all-in
Yugo_Hustlah: folds
n7a7t7e: ???



Table '78140444 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: camptheblunt (30455 in chips)
Seat 5: jefrey27 (5000 in chips)
Seat 7: Yugo_Hustlah (12995 in chips)
Seat 9: n7a7t7e (20,000 in chips)
camptheblunt: posts the ante 75
jefrey27: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts the ante 75
n7a7t7e: posts the ante 75
Yugo_Hustlah: posts small blind 600
n7a7t7e: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to n7a7t7e [Jc Ts]
camptheblunt: folds
jefrey27: raises to 5,000 and is all-in
Yugo_Hustlah: folds
n7a7t7e: ???




thanks for taking the time to go through this. much apreciated
I'm not sure who told you that, but I consider myself a good 45 man turbo player and agree w/ it in general, but not as an absolute.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 10:42 AM   #7 (permalink)

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personaly ( although i do not have the greatest amount of 9 man experiance)

call
fold
call
fold
You would call a 4k shove with 10k w/ J10 but wont call 5k shove with a 20k stack /j10????
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