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Old February 21st, 2008, 10:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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anyone have any logic on why i might wanna fold this?
etc...hate this ?

PokerStars Game #15439611876: Tournament #78158052, $23+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/02/21 - 05:31:39 (ET)
Table '78158052 1' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: 13th Street (1005 in chips)
Seat 2: Jeff de Chef (3460 in chips)
Seat 4: Macasalama (795 in chips)
Seat 5: sizzlinbetta (1075 in chips)
Seat 6: svigant (2665 in chips)
Macasalama: posts small blind 15
sizzlinbetta: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sizzlinbetta [Jc Ac]
svigant: folds
13th Street: calls 30
Jeff de Chef: folds
Macasalama: calls 15
sizzlinbetta: raises 90 to 120
13th Street: calls 90
Macasalama: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [9s Jh Tc]
Macasalama: bets 675 and is all-in
sizzlinbetta: raises 280 to 955 and is all-in
13th Street: calls 885 and is all-in
sizzlinbetta said, "fsaifdslkj"
*** TURN *** [9s Jh Tc] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [9s Jh Tc 4s] [6h]
sizzlinbetta said, "i got sandwitched"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sizzlinbetta: shows [Jc Ac] (a pair of Jacks)
13th Street: shows [Kd Qc] (a straight, Nine to King)
13th Street collected 420 from side pot
Macasalama: shows [4c Qh] (a pair of Fours)
13th Street collected 2385 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2805 Main pot 2385. Side pot 420. | Rake 0
Board [9s Jh Tc 4s 6h]
Seat 1: 13th Street showed [Kd Qc] and won (2805) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 2: Jeff de Chef (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Macasalama (small blind) showed [4c Qh] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 5: sizzlinbetta (big blind) showed [Jc Ac] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 6: svigant folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old February 21st, 2008, 03:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am not totally sure of the quality of players at this buy-in. However, this is a very dangerous board. With the blinds being low it is reasonable to think that your raise was called by KQ, J8 suited, or even 78 suited. To call here is not a good play. The push by the play with an open ender was not good imo. Cause if a Q comes off any AK would win the pot and at best he is looking at splitting the pot at that point, his best hope is for the 8 to hit the turn or the river. He really has only 8 outs. I wouldn't count the 4 or the Q as outs here; because the 4 can easily be beat by anyone pair the board with a 9. All in all I have to think that this should have been an easy fold.

But hopefully Chimp_Greg or some of the more experienced players will put in their two cents on this.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 03:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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wasn't worried about the guy who orginally pushes i know that's gonna be super light and weak...just was like ok i know i have him beat guy behind me can easily have me beat but he can have tons hands that he can't call behind and i don't want this guy who's jaming imo crappy mid pairs or straight draws to take down the pot...i used my timer here and honestly didn't know what to do.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 03:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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fwiw, I go 150 PF.

3x + 1 BB per limper.

Obv you crush these games... but thought I'd throw my thoughts out there.

Yea, I get it in, too
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Old February 21st, 2008, 04:01 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Your a very good player, you know this just happened to be a cooler but it prob got to you dont worry man, snap shove everytime, ul
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