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Old February 24th, 2008, 07:44 PM   #1 (permalink)

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ok this hand was a bit confusing. normally i dont have any problems with early game play. a few questions here

ok this is the second hand of a 6.50 45 man turbo

1) what type of preflop raise do you put in ( im not sure if my bet was correct)
2) how do you play the flop here? and is shoving a smart move on what looks like a draw heavy flop
3) do you ever check from the bb here ( a few months ago i probably check her ethen check fold if i dont hit....which is far to weak yes?)



PokerStars Game #15521306688: Tournament #78572599, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/02/24 - 14:36:24 (ET)
Table '78572599 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: DCRISPIN (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: JOKERSWILD64 (1480 in chips)
Seat 3: NoChance56 (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: gogzy (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: gulogulo1 (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: OKnightal (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: rubberlip72 (1480 in chips)
Seat 8: q3.cleaner (1560 in chips)
Seat 9: llinoa (1500 in chips)
NoChance56: posts small blind 10
gogzy: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gogzy [Ad Kd]
gulogulo1: calls 20
OKnightal: calls 20
rubberlip72: calls 20
q3.cleaner: calls 20
llinoa: calls 20
DCRISPIN: folds
JOKERSWILD64: calls 20
NoChance56: calls 10
gogzy: raises 180 to 200
gulogulo1: calls 180
OKnightal: folds
rubberlip72: folds
q3.cleaner: calls 180
llinoa: folds
JOKERSWILD64: calls 180
NoChance56: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc 6d Kc]
gogzy: bets 1300 and is all-in
gulogulo1: folds
q3.cleaner: folds
JOKERSWILD64: calls 1280 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Jc 6d Kc] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 6d Kc Ts] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gogzy: shows [Ad Kd] (a pair of Kings)
JOKERSWILD64: shows [Qd Th] (a pair of Tens)
gogzy collected 3440 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3440 | Rake 0
Board [Jc 6d Kc Ts 4d]
Seat 1: DCRISPIN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: JOKERSWILD64 (button) showed [Qd Th] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: NoChance56 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: gogzy (big blind) showed [Ad Kd] and won (3440) with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: gulogulo1 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: OKnightal folded before Flop
Seat 7: rubberlip72 folded before Flop
Seat 8: q3.cleaner folded on the Flop
Seat 9: llinoa folded before Flop


could i have got more out of the pot with a smaller preflop bet and enticing more ppl into the pot?
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Old February 24th, 2008, 08:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Don't really think you want to get the whole table in w AK. I like 200, it seems big but you still get callers in these. Sometimes I check from bb, sometimes I don't-mood/table dependent......I play the flop like you but don't know if it's best....I would think it would be. Maybe 2/3 and call any shove

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Old February 24th, 2008, 08:29 PM   #3 (permalink)

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preflop: I like

flop: I like a CRAI here, it's almost a guarantee someone is gonna put a poke bet out there
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" could i have got more out of the pot with a smaller preflop bet and enticing more ppl into the pot?"

that's exactly what you don't want, best scenario would be to get HU
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Old February 24th, 2008, 08:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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1) what type of preflop raise do you put in ( im not sure if my bet was correct)
I like the 200 bet. Normally Id raise 100 to 120 here, cuz id want 1-2 callers. You got the caller with a 200 raise.

2) how do you play the flop here? and is shoving a smart move on what looks like a draw heavy flop
Very seldom would I push here. Id prob bet between pot and 2xPot

3) do you ever check from the bb here ( a few months ago i probably check her ethen check fold if i dont hit....which is far to weak yes?)

No, because that just allows the J9 os of the world to flop a mediocre hand, which may beat the ace high.
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I typically only make it 140 PF, but I have no problem w/ your raise.

Flop, I usually bet this flop, but I like Nate's CRAI idea. I shold incorporate that into my game more.
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I raise 100, NEVER CHECK THAT. (i've lost by doing that countless times, other guy gets VERY lucky)

I bet 2/3rds on flop. You got lucky that the other guy called the all in bet.
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