Early Step 4

Corey · December 10th, 2009, 06:53 PM

PokerStars Game #36505252533: Tournament #220569393, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/12/10 13:49:48 ET
Table '220569393 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: duikerxxxx (1350 in chips)
Seat 2: arthesia255 (1510 in chips)
Seat 3: Corey Sykes (1450 in chips)
Seat 4: Storm2700 (1510 in chips)
Seat 5: sexy-airwolf (1770 in chips)
Seat 6: 74win74 (1550 in chips)
Seat 7: Badbeatjerre (1375 in chips)
Seat 8: madtwnmike (1450 in chips)
Seat 9: SmartFAB (1535 in chips)
Corey Sykes: posts small blind 15
Storm2700: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Corey Sykes [Qd Ah]
sexy-airwolf: folds
74win74: folds
Badbeatjerre: folds
madtwnmike: folds
SmartFAB: raises 60 to 90
duikerxxxx: folds
arthesia255: folds
Corey Sykes: calls 75
Storm2700: folds
*** FLOP *** [7s 3c Qs]
Corey Sykes: checks
SmartFAB: bets 150
Corey Sykes: raises 150 to 300
SmartFAB: calls 150
*** TURN *** [7s 3c Qs] [Ks]
Corey Sykes: checks
SmartFAB: checks
*** RIVER *** [7s 3c Qs Ks] [7c]
Corey Sykes: bets 300
SmartFAB: raises 840 to 1140
Corey Sykes: folds
Uncalled bet (840) returned to SmartFAB
SmartFAB collected 1410 from pot
SmartFAB: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1410 | Rake 0
Board [7s 3c Qs Ks 7c]
Seat 1: duikerxxxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: arthesia255 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Corey Sykes (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: Storm2700 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: sexy-airwolf folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: 74win74 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Badbeatjerre folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: madtwnmike folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: SmartFAB collected (1410)

ChicagoBlu · December 10th, 2009, 06:58 PM

why did u min raise the flop? check is fine on the turn, i probably c/call the river.

Corey · December 10th, 2009, 07:00 PM

idk, I was trying to play a sketchy line instead of ABC. I should've cc'd riv I agree now

marcalioto · December 10th, 2009, 10:09 PM

3 bet this preflop pls!!!!!

Corey · December 10th, 2009, 10:18 PM

why would i 3bet AQo in early pos pf and when everyones crazy nit cause of the step

marcalioto · December 10th, 2009, 11:14 PM

arent u in the sb??? you are out of position, more of a reason to 3 bet. I just think aq is gonna be the best hand here 85% of the time when there are 4 folds in fron of his open.
if you do wanna play that tight to gurantee yourself a spot back in step 4, just fold preflop. I dont like to flat out of position with aq, just my personal preference. Flatting isnt horrible, but the min raise on the flop on a flushed board is not a strong play. Just my opinion

marcalioto · December 10th, 2009, 11:16 PM

the step 4s, any of the steps for that matter are like Double or nothings. Im just giving you my opinion, you can play any way you like

ChicagoBlu · December 10th, 2009, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcalioto

the step 4s, any of the steps for that matter are like Double or nothings. Im just giving you my opinion, you can play any way you like

I dont play DON's so I wouldn't know for sure, but aren't they about survival a lot and taking a line like this w/AQ bad?

marcalioto · December 10th, 2009, 11:42 PM

yes survival, doesnt mean you dont 3 bet with aq from a hijack raise. whats ur range to 3 bet a high jack raise?
im not saying im always 3 betting, but around 80% here

Another note:
I like to be putting pressure on players in the early stages of sit ngoes. I think its a little bit different than how everyone else plays, but it allows me to maximize profit in later levels from my bigger hands. I want people to think i am some agg spew tard. If people are paying attention to game flow, they probably wont believe me later on when i have a real hand cause i had been so agg.

ChicagoBlu · December 10th, 2009, 11:57 PM

my fault, i just skimmed the OP. the initial raise was from the hi-jack... you are right, it does change a lot of how I would have played the hand. I agree 3betting is fine, agree 80-85%.

marcalioto · December 10th, 2009, 11:59 PM

i had to read it 8 times before i figured out how i would have played the hand. Then i realized he wasnt in middle position, and 3 betting was probably the best play

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoBlu

my fault, i just skimmed the OP. the initial raise was from the hi-jack... you are right, it does change a lot of how I would have played the hand. I agree 3betting is fine, agree 80-85%.

ChicagoBlu · December 11th, 2009, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcalioto

i had to read it 8 times before i figured out how i would have played the hand. Then i realized he wasnt in middle position, and 3 betting was probably the best play

so given what we know now, 3bet to 250, 400 on flop, and basically jam the turn?